Ideas tank for MadLaps championship

Pepper · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:51 am Post subject:

Like F1 and F2 ?

Spanky_McCoy · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject:

HotSWAT · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject:

i dunno...kinda liked the fact that the gp's were so hectic and so many peeps driving around...
and anyway, splitting it into two divisions: i don't think i can see it working unless we change the teams of 3 into teams of 2 or 4 (1 or 2 peeps from each division). Or maybe if we just have 3 teams per division...
but i do see what you mean spanky, it's a better way of doing things in the sense that the slower players can have a close race and can have a definate chance of a podium. although...the people in the middle of the scoreboard who end up in the higher division may be left feeling a bit alone..
why's this so bloody hard?!?!?
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DaCheese · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject:

Good suggestions Spanky, those are some pretty major shortcomings admittedly. I have to say that the benefits of the current system are mainly that it's reasonably simple, realistic without being over-unfair on those that crash a few laps into a race and, while it takes a lot of organisation, could take a lot more!

Two classes would work well but to be honest the problem is where you create the division. In most GPs it's the top 5 that scream off into the distance and start piling laps on everyone else, while 6th or thereabouts onwards are generally closer. Split the field in half based on qualifying or previous race finishing order or whatever else and the lower half of class 1 probably ends up pretty uninvolved.

Any solutions?
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Pepper · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject:

Top 5 not allowed to race then... lol just joking, never mind Wink

Middenrat · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:04 am Post subject:

just for a bit of fun, Tier One -
Moldo
Bboy
Dodgy
Steve
HotSwat
Reh
Bunsen
c3b
Rustray
JawZ
StevieM (unit)
DaMadman
Dan The Man

Tier Two:
Belial
McCoy
Middenrat
Slowth
Yann
Mark-s
Andsome
Sosteve
Shadowfax
RFR Steve
Da Dude24
THUG
DaCheese

With apologies for any ommissions and calculated weighing recent form + likelihood of appearance + season 3 standings. (I reckon I resulted out of position due to just doggedness in turning up repeatedly).

There are another half dozen racers showing too infrequently for consideration in this exercise and maybe four or five more who have expressed keen interest in the new season, having come to the game but recently.

I'm coming round to the idea of separate races for these two fields. We've got the Admins, it looks like we can support the extended server load, and the server controller... is in orbit around a Jupiter-type planet in the system of a class-M sun in a galaxy far, far away [sorry Mad, couldn't help it Wink

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Anyways, please feel free to play being Bernie Ecclestone and shuffle the Tiers around, you know you want to Wink

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Spanky_McCoy · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:38 am Post subject:

Steve · Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Posts: 852 Location: Sunny Wales

The only way to find out if it works... is to try it. Very Happy

If this system goes ahead, then i cant see the players at the bottom of tier 1 being too happy about it.... going from top/middle in the rankings, to bottom.

And there may only be a few seconds separating the bottom of tier 1, and the top of tier 2, so where's the cut off?

Ste-Unit · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 707 Location: Leeds, W. Yorks.

The only problem I see with having two seperate races is how we're gonna have a full 25 lap race without anybody joining and racing. We obviously need to change the password to the server as alot of non-GPers know it now. Also, when Tier 1 is racing, does Tier 2 join as spectators? It'll have to work out somehow, is it possible to restrict the amount of players for each race to the amount in that tier? For example, 10 racers in tier 1 means as soon as theres 10 in the server it displays as being 'full' and all the tier 2 guys join as spectators to watch the action.

Pepper · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:21 am Post subject:

Sometimes, when a player join during the race, it freezes the screen of the racers for a short time, very short but enough to crash and loose a lot of time.
I agree we should change the password. And IF we have two separate tiers championships, the passwords shouldn't be the same.

Personnaly, i don't really care about beeing in bottom of tiers1 or top at tier2.
If i'm in the bottom of tier 1, at least it is between the topdrivers. Beeing in the top of tier 2 would be great but it still would be the tier 2, i know it's not really representative of my driving skills. But at least the podium could be the aim there.

What about a time attack session of 15 minutes on an unknown track to see (just see) how it could be divided, but without taking any decision yet ?

Ste-Unit · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 707 Location: Leeds, W. Yorks.

Thats quite a good idea, a track that no one has done before, with everyone on at once. the top 10 times after a certain time limit are in tier 1 and the bottom 10 in tier 2.

i dont see any problems with that, apart from people going slow on purpose so they can own tier 2.. Razz

Steve · Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Posts: 852 Location: Sunny Wales

It could end up like the Downhill World Champs last year... people deliberately going slowly to get a better positioning in the actual race.

And im going away tomorrow for a while, so i wont be able to do this qualifying thing if its before 17th July. Embarassed

Pepper · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:48 am Post subject:

I guess, if you, Bboy, Steve, Moldo or Geezer for example are too slow to be in tier1... it's gonna be obvious Mr. Green

The ones for who it's gonna be 50/50 are more drivers like Middenrat, DaMadMan, DanTheMan, DaCheese, me, ... middlefield in other words. It could be close

Ste-Unit · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 707 Location: Leeds, W. Yorks.

Hm, yeh because if you know that you have a 50/50 chance of being in tiers 1/2, and you don't really want to be in a tier where your always at the back and don't stand much chance, you might slow down on purpose to be in tier 2 where you'll have much more of a chance to shine.

but then again, 3 or 4 people will be the slower drivers in tier 1 no matter what, so someones gotta do it. (i'm just afraid that these people will get fed up of losing and not making any impact that they might drop out of the GP season). This is where the 2 tiers combined in one race might be better in this case, if you don't stand a chance against the rest of the tier 1 drivers then you could at least race the faster tier 2 drivers instead, making your position look a bit better than last place altogether.

DanTheMan · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 1668

Just an idea (bit off topic), any chance we could gp on sundays, that way, personnal issues (wedding receptions, Getting bladdered, children) are less likely to effect consistancy in competitors being in the races
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Pepper · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:

I agree since i often work on saturdays evening... but i think most people still prefer the previous choice.

And this is not off topic...