first gp of new season

[Moldo]

Restarting after crashing in lap 1 is allowed right?

It's time we cleared that.

But McInsane you got 0 points after all cause you didnt finish it.
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[McInSanE]

ah ok, sry didn't know that^^

[Dantski]

Do you mean people could crash on lap 1, then restart and be eligible to score points Moldo?

I'd be against this, a driver making a mistake on lap 1 shouldn't be at an advantage over someone who makes a mistake on the other 24 laps.

Of course they are free to restart and drive for fun, but points shouldn't be counted.
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It's not the winning, its the taking apart

[retoon]

am with dantski. you shouldnt get a second chance just because you messed u on lap one.

[mad]

I believe the main reason this was brought up was because some people occaissionally fail to start due to technical reasons.

[Moldo]

Maybe we could adjust it a little bit?
you only score points after restarting if your 'crash' is due to the start, meaning lag or accidently entered.
So if you crash after a good start but a stupid mistake still in the first lap, you're just out.

Btw, I'm getting confused now
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[panza]

same ere i thought we went over this rule last year

i crashed this weekend both gps on first lap and never restarted

[Tred]

I thought it was allowed as it's quite possible to go off due to lag on the first lap as well as possible server issues etc (when I say lag, I mean graphics lag on the racers end, not the server. This tends to occur for the first lap on the larger tracks, and particularly when there are alot of other racers on the track).
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LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

[bunsenjetson]

lag = mechanical failure = dnf, I would say. Imagine the last race of the season, 2 points in it, you crash, say you lagged, get a restart, come 2nd, win the season ... would ther be arguments? You bet. Yet it doesn't matter which race of the season it happens.

Perhaps there could be a compromise. In real F1 racing if you splutter at the start you can take a pit stop. You can also opt to start from the pit lane if a problem occurs before the race. If the server was set to rounds, you could actually quit the server, come back, rejoin, watch the intro and start your race. It would be like a pitstop and you'd probably be a minute or two behind the leaders. The server would announce that you had left and come back, so everyone would know, and perhaps you could be penalised x places for each restart, assuming you finish in time. It could be a crackpot idea, of course ..........

[Middenrat]

Last time around this was kept loose and uncodified. It's a game after all and seems a bit cruel to bin something you've been looking forward to all week cos of a moment's lapse in the scrum off the grid. So, seeing as it's the Match Admin who finishes the race, racers were allowed to finish even if known to have restarted on lap one (one and a half in practice usu), along with recovering drivers who had left the track and remounted. Chaps who genuinely screw up on lap one are not normally challenging for top positions in the Championship and Admins have been careful to note any suspected gamesmanship ( we've got a lot of eyes and ears out there on GP meets thanks to our chums on Vent )
If a majority of you all are dis with this friendly arrangement then it'll hardly be adding to the total sum of human happiness imo
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Skin by Baino

[JawZ]

slow down abit at the start if you err lag or get out infront. less cars on ya screen then.
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[bunsenjetson]

Yes MR, there's nothin more frustrating than crashing on the first lap, apart perhaps from crashing on the 24th ... I think the opposition to the idea of being allowed to restart comes from the same camp as the idea that late starters should be banished to hell (or sent to Smurfs of War). The frustration of finishing a 3-lap race in 1st place only to discover that someone who started 10 seconds after you has in fact won can surely only be magnified after 25 laps. The 25 lap races have about 5 mins runoff at the end, so you could quite easily finish in time ...

Anyway, it is just a game and you're right - anyone who cheats or plays the rules won't make themselves too popular in the community. If Michael Owen or Cristiano Ronaldo played trackmania, they would do it, then look puppy-eyed at Mad, as though there was nothing wrong.

[retoon]

just like to say that Cristiano Ronaldo or Michael Owen are not cheats.

[-slowth-]

*winks at retoon*

[JawZ]

Micheal Owen would miss most of the season
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[Moldo]

I think the only option then is a timepenalty after restarting..

or not allowing it at all which can be very frustrating for the one who is unlucky enough to crash in the first lap already.

I like the idea of the timepenalty better. One minute (or something) counted upon your time, then you could end up +- 5 positions lower than you've finished, and it's even possible that it doesnt matter at all.
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[Dantski]

Well I crashed first lap and I know I don't deserve a restart and points for it.

Maybe it'll teach me not to do it again (it won't!).
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It's not the winning, its the taking apart

[Voices]

i always thought it was if you restarted you weren't counted and this was fairly simple.... of course this couldnt take anyone's pride away from a restarted win

[Spanky_McCoy]

[Moldo]

Don't think Mad would be the only one distracted by you McCoy

By the way, I'd still like to know how the exact rule is now (Mid?) Is it allowed then?
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